Unfortunately the whole world functions this way these days. Media is either completely pro or completely against about every subject. Because that is in the interest of their funders. The days of the true independent unbiased media are over. So the reality is somewhere in the middle. China is neither collapsing nor taking off again. China is slowing down. Will grow at 3 to 4% in the near future. It is just impossible for such a big economy that has done so well for multiple decades to keep up the same growth rate, especially when the whole world is slowing down.
Nope export is being propped up by yuan devaluation. Factories exiting China mean that export by value has decreased though in sheer volume it may look more.
@@portcybertryx222net value increases and global shares increase because if you’re buying more for the same price or less you’ll buy less from a competitive country/market/indsutry. If I can get 10 X for one price and I need to get 5 X from another country, if country A devalues their currency you will then buy MORE for the same price from country A as it’s now cheaper per unit but net costs the same, and country B loses business, it called market share and you have it backwards because if you own majority of shares you can then up value your currency again (and this is working due to de-dollarisation). You literally have it backwards 😂😂😂😂💀🤷♂️
Chinese culture is rooted on Confucius and Yi Jing. It is interesting to learn. If you die without learning a bit of Chinese Culture and history, you missed a big part of humanity.
China only cares about China and the Chinese, 1.4bn is a lot of people to manage. Ghost city narrative already debunked, people have been moving in to some of these en masses after public infrastructure was complete.
Empty properties are a result of a very different strategy in China. They build everything first even metro stations, universities schools etc, and that attracts the people. Businesses have no problem attracting staff because all the infrastructure is built. Plus empty shells are how people buy their homes. They complete the interiors to their own desires and budgets.
@ It has worked. During the 2008 financial crisis purchases stalled but within a few years the ghost cities were gone, but the media never updated the story. The same last year. Lots of builders used Ponzi schemes to fund the construction and were made to make good on the developments out of their own pockets. That means buyers would get a building shell that they would finish themselves. They would have a home to finish, not a worthless unit in an unfinished building. It is the policy of the CPC to make housing more affordable for the young. That’s a core factor behind lower birth rates.
@dylanpyle6500 example Shenzhen a fishing village now with 30 million population. China built all the related infrastructures and housing. And the businesses targeted audiences. It works 💪
CHINA ECONOMIC DATA NOVEMBER: House Prices (YoY) (Nov) -5.7% Fixed Asset Investment (YoY) (Nov) +3.3% Industrial Production (YoY) (Nov) +5.4% Chinese Industrial Production YTD (YoY) (Nov) +5.8% Retail Sales (YoY) (Nov) +3.0% Chinese Retail Sales YTD (YoY) (Nov) +3.45% Chinese Unemployment Rate (Nov) 5.0% THOSE ARE INDICATORS OF A VERY STRONG ECONOMY ESPECIALLY BECAUSE INFLATION IS 0.2%
I don't see how China's economy will collapses. As Europe takes a deep economic dive downwards, they will need cheap products and services, or at least reasonable priced ones not offered by the West itself. Even the US, arch rival of China will find it hard not to turn to China for cheap goods as the population develops more angry about the super expensive products that have replaced Chinese ones. Th Global South, it's a no-brainer. They will buy cheap Chinese products as they have done so for decades. So does this mean the Chinese economy will fall? Doesn't look like it.
@ here’s the deal. Chinas economy is actually collapsing. This is very evident as you can see through the deflation, which even though makes everything in china more cheap and accessible, it also affects people’s income.
@@Islamic_Edits5321 no its not exactly that same thing happens to russia but you think that it does but the war in ukraine actually made its gdp and economy way higher in the world rank 4 i think as they produce way and way more war stuff but no one just wants to believe that same with china it produces way more stufff than you think thats why
China controls 90% of the world technology? How did you come up with this number? By the number of cell phones in the country? Or..... ??? I am anxiously waiting for your response.
They eliminated the techs giant jack Ma, and others housing developers in order to ensure new people {low incomes and new redevelopment to rejuvenate internal demands and creating more middle incomes classes} to catch the opportunity available to them.
This issues would develop continue for numbers of years{unemployment of Young} but don't worry, The government should able to absorb them to useful manners by way of simple technology supportive in a lot of field {industry}.
There are not 1.4 billion people in china ... Since 2020 it declined 500 million. And still decreasing. Why esle would they drastically change their stance on 1 child policy?
Also, add: 5. China 🇨🇳 has huge reserves of cash at its disposal. 6. China has significant foreign investments in global markets and considerable external reserves. 7. China has a vibrant domestic manufacturing base that serves different global value chains. 8. China controls major raw materials supply chains in Africa, Latin America and Asia. 9. The Chinese seem to be smarter than everyone else these days.
Anyone who laughs at infrastructure I'll point out that what kept greece from total collapse when saddled to becomet he escape valve of the 08 crisis was its infrastructure. Its adequate healthcare, transportation and public services sectors kept the country from falling into a one way spiral of mass impoverishment. things are not good, but they could be a LOT worse. Now think what effect you'd have from being a world leader in that. And ironically, that's what the US once did to become a global superpower: the new deal
Populations mean nothing if lack of buying power. Fortunately, the lifted 800 millions out of poverty, imorove buying power. All need is some stimulate the current saving mentality to consumerism... Viola...
China doesn't just build itself. It has building contracts with other countries too. We need to compete in a sustainable way instead of brute forcing like Elon suggests.
I think when commentators talk about China, they need to talk about whether it's based on the current facts, or immediate foreseeable future or longer terms. I do think based on the current data, as of Jan 12 2025, things look pretty grim economically speaking. When will it turn around. Who knows?! But I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better. I believe there's going to be a domino effect globally first.
I cannot believe this. A country can be rich through investment (local and foreign) coming into the country. If you have too many foreign companies moving out and local companies closing down, resulting in high unemployment rate. No one is spending. The talented ones move overseas. An economy cannot work if no one is spending, regardless how grand infrastructure you have. The trust issue is a key problem. In business, trust is important. Without that, nothing is workable. Corruption is another killer.
I have to disagree on this one. Mainly because of corruption in China which stems from the highest level to the lowest which stagnates Chinas growth. Chinas GDP isn’t what it used to be and it’s slowly down. Housing markets are collapsing Banks stealing peoples money and running away Not only that but they build things fast but not to last. Its EV market has taken a massive down turn, like everything else. I live in Shenzhen for 7 years and most of my Chinese friends say the same. I’m not saying China cannot do this in saying China is still a second world country in many ways. But this is my take on it. COVID massively affected China it’s going to take a long time for China to recover let alone it removed 100,000 thousands of jobs when it removed the private education centre. China is a great country but unfortunately it’s on the down turn and as you know when China goes down it goes down hard. M My Chinese friend in the financial sector is worried for 2025. Things I’m not obligated to say.
The thing is every country is going down n the question is which country can bounce back. It looks like its China, Russia, the producer n the resourceser. Moreover, the developing countries are where the new money is made n China Russia will have it under control, basically the world will be devided west n east in terms of power. Another scenario, the zionists control everything n they want the world to collapse in order to create a new one, one government, one bank, one army n one producer (China as the producer). So China may produce everything in the world, one thing i am sure of, a total control, dictatorship is coming to the world. My prediction, China will conquer Mars!!!
Only 10% Chinese own stocks, while in US it’s 60%. American is too financialized and has lost its industrial straight- stocks up 29% in 2024 but most regular Americans feel poorer due to the inflation.
Self sufficiency is not enough to compete with a country who literally sells the F-35 to the richest nations, let alone the weapons and now their LNG and then their tech
Those four advantages have been there all along, one can say despite these their economy is going down that means they are in big trouble. I have many local friends in china telling me they are suffering. Just so u know
One can have population but.. Hehehe if that population stops spending... Hehehe than consequences r bad.. Hehehe another thing China population is on sharp decline no big wave of new younger generation now & future looks even worst.. Hehehe than Chinese present young generation over educated too many diplomas no jobs for them.. Hehehe just saying.. & new trend starting in China young generation tries to avoid pensions payments that's will be disastrous for present & future generations & country's budget.. So there's a lot of problems there together with obvious like huge debt military spending & markets rescues..
There are 2 narratives about China in the internet.. China is collapsing but China will also take over the world… LOL
china "experts" are booming! ha....................
china "experts" are booming! ha....................
The Peter Zeihanism of China's collapsing so hard their leaders would go mad and start WW3
😂👍
Unfortunately the whole world functions this way these days. Media is either completely pro or completely against about every subject. Because that is in the interest of their funders. The days of the true independent unbiased media are over. So the reality is somewhere in the middle. China is neither collapsing nor taking off again. China is slowing down. Will grow at 3 to 4% in the near future. It is just impossible for such a big economy that has done so well for multiple decades to keep up the same growth rate, especially when the whole world is slowing down.
China's exports are booming.
Nope export is being propped up by yuan devaluation. Factories exiting China mean that export by value has decreased though in sheer volume it may look more.
@@portcybertryx222net value increases and global shares increase because if you’re buying more for the same price or less you’ll buy less from a competitive country/market/indsutry. If I can get 10 X for one price and I need to get 5 X from another country, if country A devalues their currency you will then buy MORE for the same price from country A as it’s now cheaper per unit but net costs the same, and country B loses business, it called market share and you have it backwards because if you own majority of shares you can then up value your currency again (and this is working due to de-dollarisation). You literally have it backwards 😂😂😂😂💀🤷♂️
@@portcybertryx222German and American businesses are still moving to China lol, germanies car manufacturing are almost ALL moving to China
china "experts" are booming! ha....................
nice to know USA economy are blooming 1 cds copy of Windows fetch for 200 dollar. wow.
China has been a superpower for 5000 years and still kicking as ever.
They know what they are doing.
China has all the gold
they also use virus against other countries
SUPER GREED NOT SUPER POWER.
Chinese culture is rooted on Confucius and Yi Jing. It is interesting to learn.
If you die without learning a bit of Chinese Culture and history, you missed a big part of humanity.
China only cares about China and the Chinese, 1.4bn is a lot of people to manage.
Ghost city narrative already debunked, people have been moving in to some of these en masses after public infrastructure was complete.
many countries realize that we need china investments so badly
Considering that China was suposed to collapse in 2012😂.
Yup China is ok
Exactly😂 American news have been saying china will collapse every year since 2000
Thanks for speaking the facts 🙌
If China's so great, why not move there?
@@Night_Crew_ArtistIt's his/her own choice Who you are to tell. You either jealous Indian or American
@@RDX_HIDDEN_EYE-O_O have you considered moving there? I mean if it's so nice🤷
Empty properties are a result of a very different strategy in China. They build everything first even metro stations, universities schools etc, and that attracts the people. Businesses have no problem attracting staff because all the infrastructure is built. Plus empty shells are how people buy their homes. They complete the interiors to their own desires and budgets.
Why did it not work out
@ It has worked. During the 2008 financial crisis purchases stalled but within a few years the ghost cities were gone, but the media never updated the story. The same last year. Lots of builders used Ponzi schemes to fund the construction and were made to make good on the developments out of their own pockets. That means buyers would get a building shell that they would finish themselves. They would have a home to finish, not a worthless unit in an unfinished building. It is the policy of the CPC to make housing more affordable for the young. That’s a core factor behind lower birth rates.
@@dylanpyle6500😂 how do you know? Mind boggling tr😂ll
"if you build, they come!".
@dylanpyle6500 example Shenzhen a fishing village now with 30 million population. China built all the related infrastructures and housing. And the businesses targeted audiences. It works 💪
US and western media sing the "China collapse" tune for more than twenty years and never get bored. Only the readers did.
CHINA ECONOMIC DATA NOVEMBER: House Prices (YoY) (Nov) -5.7%
Fixed Asset Investment (YoY) (Nov) +3.3%
Industrial Production (YoY) (Nov) +5.4%
Chinese Industrial Production YTD (YoY) (Nov) +5.8%
Retail Sales (YoY) (Nov) +3.0%
Chinese Retail Sales YTD (YoY) (Nov) +3.45%
Chinese Unemployment Rate (Nov) 5.0% THOSE ARE INDICATORS OF A VERY STRONG ECONOMY ESPECIALLY BECAUSE INFLATION IS 0.2%
Ask Gordon Chang if China is collapsing. He has edited his book over and over again.
CHINA is the future ❤❤❤
They're population is collapsing
U.S has Silicone Valley !
China has Shen Zhen considered as Silicone Valley which is far more Modern , Updated than the U.S
And even in the silicon valley most of them are ethnic Chinese
I don't see how China's economy will collapses. As Europe takes a deep economic dive downwards, they will need cheap products and services, or at least reasonable priced ones not offered by the West itself. Even the US, arch rival of China will find it hard not to turn to China for cheap goods as the population develops more angry about the super expensive products that have replaced Chinese ones. Th Global South, it's a no-brainer. They will buy cheap Chinese products as they have done so for decades. So does this mean the Chinese economy will fall? Doesn't look like it.
This World has to get on with Each other
Peace not Wars
USA: That isn't Profitable
It's US that doesn't want peace since their economy is reliant on military weapons!!!!
Thank you for spreading awareness. You keep us informed with the truth!! We appreciate you and your excellent reporting Cyrus!
Its economy is already higher than usas
Not true.
@@Islamic_Edits5321 yes it is usas economy has falllen so much and chinas grew as they make everything
@ here’s the deal. Chinas economy is actually collapsing. This is very evident as you can see through the deflation, which even though makes everything in china more cheap and accessible, it also affects people’s income.
@@Islamic_Edits5321 no its not exactly that same thing happens to russia but you think that it does but the war in ukraine actually made its gdp and economy way higher in the world rank 4 i think as they produce way and way more war stuff but no one just wants to believe that same with china it produces way more stufff than you think thats why
China gdp ppp has already surpassed the USA back in 2015, it's the western media never reported this because it will make them look bad.
Very good video
I'm totally more than 100% agreed .
Totally agree
Hello Gordon Chang, we are calling for you. 😉
You are going to make Gordan Chang out of business! 🤣🤣
When it comes to their ego, the truth doesn't matter.
Sweetly pathetic, aren't they.😂
#5 China's middle class will double in the 2030's.
China controls 90% of the world technology? How did you come up with this number? By the number of cell phones in the country? Or..... ???
I am anxiously waiting for your response.
China's problem is not about its economic output, it is its distribution of wealth.
They eliminated the techs giant jack Ma, and others housing developers in order to ensure new people {low incomes and new redevelopment to rejuvenate internal demands and creating more middle incomes classes} to catch the opportunity available to them.
I've been there several times hope you're right
They are going by unemployment but which country doesn’t have this problem today.
Everyone forgets that America has a real estate financial crisis a meet 15 years ago and it's just fine
The country criticizing China should be concerned about their own problems.
Gordon Chang has sold his crystal ball lately after discovering that is was faulty😂
Allahumma barik
The worst is youth unemployment and disillusionment. It's a ticking time bomb.
This issues would develop continue for numbers of years{unemployment of Young} but don't worry, The government should able to absorb them to useful manners by way of simple technology supportive in a lot of field {industry}.
The Chinese government are not selling their empty apartment to overseas Chinese! Why? We wanted to buy but only unless we got a work permit in China!
China is a real miracle ❤❤
Gordan: go read my books!
As a Chinese I didn’t even know it😂
and the U.S. is worried about Tic Tac.
AMAZING CHINA....THE WORLD SUPER POWER COUNTRY
👍💗💙💜❤🇨🇳💖❤🔥💓🧡💝💛
China🇨🇳👏👏👏❤️
This is where America has to look up to.
U are smart for. Seeing that
Cyrus, come to BlueSky.
Great to know plenty of real estate you can buy a lower prices now before it goes up during seller market..m
Something tells me China will be fine.
There are not 1.4 billion people in china ...
Since 2020 it declined 500 million. And still decreasing.
Why esle would they drastically change their stance on 1 child policy?
China is like a different Earth.😅😂multiverse.
Indeed, they will make it because they can. They use only common sense and know the difference between illusion and reality, so PLUS POINTS!!
Also, add:
5. China 🇨🇳 has huge reserves of cash at its disposal.
6. China has significant foreign investments in global markets and considerable external reserves.
7. China has a vibrant domestic manufacturing base that serves different global value chains.
8. China controls major raw materials supply chains in Africa, Latin America and Asia.
9. The Chinese seem to be smarter than everyone else these days.
China can eventually pull it through because the bones of the economy is well developed
We love China and all things Chinese. I only use Vivo phones. My wife is a Chinese descendant. 😂 We hope China does great 👍😃
❤❤❤❤❤❤
Too much technology people must live with headaches
What will happen with Guangxi next to Guangdong province, will Guangzhou Shenzhen success be matched here ?
👍🏼🇨🇳
What is the remaining 10%? Can’t leave those behind
Almost all new patents in their name
Anyone who laughs at infrastructure I'll point out that what kept greece from total collapse when saddled to becomet he escape valve of the 08 crisis was its infrastructure. Its adequate healthcare, transportation and public services sectors kept the country from falling into a one way spiral of mass impoverishment. things are not good, but they could be a LOT worse.
Now think what effect you'd have from being a world leader in that.
And ironically, that's what the US once did to become a global superpower: the new deal
Energy investment is much bigger in nuclear then renovable
Populations mean nothing if lack of buying power. Fortunately, the lifted 800 millions out of poverty, imorove buying power. All need is some stimulate the current saving mentality to consumerism... Viola...
China to Have been the stronger of economy of the world
Nearly 1 trillion china trade surplus is something.
You can't convince deniers
But but but… What about Fox News?
Sounds convincing 😅
China doesn't just build itself. It has building contracts with other countries too. We need to compete in a sustainable way instead of brute forcing like Elon suggests.
Huge amount of paid China bots in this little echo chamber infomercial.
I think when commentators talk about China, they need to talk about whether it's based on the current facts, or immediate foreseeable future or longer terms.
I do think based on the current data, as of Jan 12 2025, things look pretty grim economically speaking. When will it turn around. Who knows?! But I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better. I believe there's going to be a domino effect globally first.
You will own nothing you will be happy
Tell them to Gordon Chang's big mouth!
90%😅
I cannot believe this. A country can be rich through investment (local and foreign) coming into the country. If you have too many foreign companies moving out and local companies closing down, resulting in high unemployment rate. No one is spending. The talented ones move overseas. An economy cannot work if no one is spending, regardless how grand infrastructure you have. The trust issue is a key problem. In business, trust is important. Without that, nothing is workable. Corruption is another killer.
That is the problem with USA and India. There is lack of trust and rampant corruption.
Describe good economy
Why are Chinese Researchers in AI opting to overstay in Europe and USA if they think its on the cusp of greatness?
Cuz money? People put themselves first than their country, isn't that obvious?
Chinese should learn to be humble and live simple holy lives pleasing Trinity God Almighty and benefitting themselves.
This channel has turned into a chineese government channel 😂
I have to disagree on this one. Mainly because of corruption in China which stems from the highest level to the lowest which stagnates Chinas growth. Chinas GDP isn’t what it used to be and it’s slowly down.
Housing markets are collapsing
Banks stealing peoples money and running away
Not only that but they build things fast but not to last. Its EV market has taken a massive down turn, like everything else.
I live in Shenzhen for 7 years and most of my Chinese friends say the same.
I’m not saying China cannot do this in saying China is still a second world country in many ways.
But this is my take on it. COVID massively affected China it’s going to take a long time for China to recover let alone it removed 100,000 thousands of jobs when it removed the private education centre.
China is a great country but unfortunately it’s on the down turn and as you know when China goes down it goes down hard. M
My Chinese friend in the financial sector is worried for 2025. Things I’m not obligated to say.
The thing is every country is going down n the question is which country can bounce back. It looks like its China, Russia, the producer n the resourceser. Moreover, the developing countries are where the new money is made n China Russia will have it under control, basically the world will be devided west n east in terms of power. Another scenario, the zionists control everything n they want the world to collapse in order to create a new one, one government, one bank, one army n one producer (China as the producer). So China may produce everything in the world, one thing i am sure of, a total control, dictatorship is coming to the world. My prediction, China will conquer Mars!!!
😂😂😂
中国优越
Well, no, "everybody" is not saying that.
I'm not, for example..
Semantics.. I don’t know a market-watcher who’s not.
You forgot to mention thanks to U.S. investment over last 80+ years
Not now because Mr president trump is back now prohibited there product special huawei also oppo vivo
China loves Trump.....we knew Trump will come back four years ago,he is basically the last piece of China's rise, you'll understand it later
BS
Wow your hair
They do not know God
Ha..ha...nit really..
But Chinese stock market is still in the red for almost 5 years since 2020.😕
Stock markets do not reflect the general behavior of the economy.
Only 10% Chinese own stocks, while in US it’s 60%. American is too financialized and has lost its industrial straight- stocks up 29% in 2024 but most regular Americans feel poorer due to the inflation.
Self sufficiency is not enough to compete with a country who literally sells the F-35 to the richest nations, let alone the weapons and now their LNG and then their tech
I have a feeling you are sarcastic about America... America has nothing to offer to development and peace ✌️
Your argument is pointless
heard about global south? yes, the term that your rich friends hated. ha........................
You can’t lose 18 trillion usd in property value and think everything is ok
China is the future !....😊
America is the past !....😭
1. Tofu construction
2. Copy
3. Corruption
Who are they going to sell to unless its a high population country like China is. But you could just be a troll being paid.
But they cant beat India. We are superpower
China is obliterating India
No, but South Korea can!
They are the centre of the universe.
@@BruhTNT4258lol stop trolling
damn, you are so spot on. ha...................
😂
Green energy? I call BS on that
They did aggressive transitioning to green energy back in the covid era, and said by 2030 to achieve 0 pollution
Who cares😂
sleep well, bro! ha.....................
Those four advantages have been there all along, one can say despite these their economy is going down that means they are in big trouble. I have many local friends in china telling me they are suffering. Just so u know
You can see why they come to our countries.
One can have population but.. Hehehe if that population stops spending... Hehehe than consequences r bad.. Hehehe another thing China population is on sharp decline no big wave of new younger generation now & future looks even worst.. Hehehe than Chinese present young generation over educated too many diplomas no jobs for them.. Hehehe just saying.. & new trend starting in China young generation tries to avoid pensions payments that's will be disastrous for present & future generations & country's budget.. So there's a lot of problems there together with obvious like huge debt military spending & markets rescues..